Posts by mad max

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question about the last genaration

by donald in

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with 2014 only 9 years a way...how could it be one genaration to the great trib....am i off on this or does it seem the dubs have missed this one too...what is there explation???

?...donald

mad max

Thanks so much MidwichCuckoo for pasting that article for me.

What the WTBTS is puting into the minds now of JW is that Noah received the warning 120 years before the flood came. What the CoC was saying was something like ::::

the year 1914 was when Jah (the JW say) announced that this generation will by no means pass away , now it's been 90 years since 1914 and if Noah preached for 120 years then it should be about another 30 years to go before the end.

So this is what is slowly been put into their minds. Now if the year 2034 is creeping up and nothing seems to be moving in that so called prophecy, then they can always say "well Noah then had to enter the ark for 40 days" And not the WBTS says a day for a year, that another 40 years they must wait for the end, the year 2074 and if that does not work then .....

and if that does not work... can go on and on and.......

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Explain you religion/beliefs in a nutshell

by devinsmom in

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lately i have been pondering my lack of a belief system.

i think that being a jw really turned me off to believing in anything since it was all crammed down my throat.. i have been feeling a need to believe in something.

i think i believe that something created us but not sure if it was one god or many.

mad max

like jeffacake my light, IN, me has somehow being turned on, dont ask me how it just happened. And everyobodys know when the light is On it is ON, it does not get brighter and brighter. The only things that grows is the light In you. Thats my nutshell which has been broken wide open. To me GOD cannot be contained in a box or a nutshell, He can do ANYTHING.

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To God We Are Dedicated...

by FMZ in

i used to love hearing this song at the conventions, everyone singing..

but dammit, now it's in my head, and i just realized that it sounds kinda like the imperial march from star wars.

and it sounds great when you hum it and desk-drum a beat to it..

mad max

Yes to God not the org.

fmz in S.A the brothers could hardly open their mouths to sing, so the singing this side of the world was very lacking.

Now when I play MY gospal songs I sing and sing and sing. Yes it feeds my emotions and my spirit, something that was very, veeeeeeeeeeeey lacking in the KH.

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New arround

by Petruska in

is this the place?

sorry for my english, i ll try my best.. i m new and hope to read some interesting arcticles here.. you can all read about me in my biography.. .

tankyou,.

mad max

hi Petruska

Good to have you, dont worry I am still very new to, but so far its being great, only problem is that I want to take this computer home with me. Oh well saving up.

Chat to u later

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Get over it. The elders don't want to "shepherd" you.

by ithinkisee in

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whenever elders hear the complaint from someone that "they never get shepherded or visited by the brothers" do you know what they do when you walk away?.

they look at each other and roll their eyes.

they make comments along the lines of "great.

mad max

can you believe it evilforce,

after 8 years not going to the meetings. Reason is in Jan 05 my daughter Loubelle went back to a coulple of JW meetings, after about 2 years, but in that time she did attend the convenstions and memorial's - then Loubelle checked out what the JW past regarding everything - and then me as well - especially re Spirit in one - My Mom and big sister (her husband elder) are very very much a JW, found out that we once attended "Babalyon's place of worship" and that was that.

Now after 8 years they asking if I have any problems, not because they found out about the worldly stuff, because THEY DID KNOW that I was FULLY into the WORLD for these last 8 years and no one called and asked then if i had any problems. Strange don't you think?

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The love you didn't get as a JW...

by JH in

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often, i hear people say that there is no love in the jw org.

can you give personal examples of this?.

ok, this is your chance to say what "love" you expected from the org.

mad max

shame they say they have love, what a lie.

Love is to me when you fellowship with people and you love them hug them, laugh with them, sing LOUDLY with them.

in the cong. you hug but they hardly can hug back, well i cant remember really laughing at the meeting and singing oh my!!! the absolute worst, those songs just killed me.

No, no love. They cannot because they do not know how, they taught it but it just has not reached dowwwwwwwwwwwwwwn into their heart.

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Get over it. The elders don't want to "shepherd" you.

by ithinkisee in

jw
friends

whenever elders hear the complaint from someone that "they never get shepherded or visited by the brothers" do you know what they do when you walk away?.

they look at each other and roll their eyes.

they make comments along the lines of "great.

mad max

Left the organ. for a while now, and can u believe it on Thur last week elder phoned to ask if i have any problems and if they can come and give me a call.......asksed motive 1.so he can go back to hall and announce that now i am df or if he really loved me. Well if he did really love me i would have got this call 8 years ago. He said love was not that the only thing (to my daughter) WHAT!!! if you do not have love you have nothing, that is what the WT preaches but do not follow themselves. Phoned him back on Mon 23 said no. Well response was if you are not there on Sun 1pm 29 we will go ahead and do what we have to do. Not madmax please let me come to you study the bible only (not with the WT pub oh no!!!) show me what you have found out, let me carry this sheep on my back. Thank goodness as i can NEVER go back will be going back to vomit.

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question about the last genaration

by donald in

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friends

with 2014 only 9 years a way...how could it be one genaration to the great trib....am i off on this or does it seem the dubs have missed this one too...what is there explation???

?...donald

mad max

In Coc, towards the end of the book, there was a photstate of one of the WT pages showing a pic of Noah and the animals, then it went on to indicate that this might happen to the JW, cant remember it was either for another 40 years from ? or if that failed then they could rely on the 120 years that Noah preached - starting from 1914, will bring the book to work 2morrow and see if i can scaan in page and print it on this site.

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question about the last genaration

by donald in

jw
friends

with 2014 only 9 years a way...how could it be one genaration to the great trib....am i off on this or does it seem the dubs have missed this one too...what is there explation???

?...donald

mad max

and then say THIS generation wil by no means pass away, i really really mean it this time my wonderful brain washed brothers, sorry (THIS)

But i did read in Crises of con. that they are gearing up all the JW to start to think about Noah and the 40 days or it could be 120 days he preached for.

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What do JWs make of John 5:24?

by jaffacake in

how do they reconcile this with watchtower doctrine?

any thoughts?

mad max

This is what I think the wt are saying about the above that if the HEAVENLY CLASS believe in God and Jesus they will be spiritually alive there and then, notice only the HEAVENLY CLASS which they try to prove by quoting ..."seated together in the heavenly places.... Ep 2: 4-7, trying to prove that John 5: 24 is talking not about WHOEVER hears my word and believes but about the heavenly class.Then the same wt says that Eph 2: 20 - 22 means they the heavenly class formed into a "temple class" in which God would dwell his holy spirit as in a "holy temple" and only the heavenly class were Christ Body these ones would pass from death to life spiritually speaking. But now thats not all these ones must remain "in union" with Christ.

What I gather from John 5: 24, Jesus said that WHOEVER, that anyone who believes will have ETERNAL life and to me that means today to be spiritually alive. Now jw believe that they are the only ones who have the"sayings of life" but Jesus here is saying that if you blieve you will be made alive spiritually, you dont have to be a jw to be S/alive. Eph 2: 11 says these ones wee Gentiles sep. from Christ, now by accepting Christ, Christ spirit IN you (that you and the Spirit) they become ONE. ONE because verse 15 says, his purpose was to create in Himself ONE NEW MAN OUT OF THE TWO.

IN Christ the whole building is joined together and rises (quickened in the Spirit, being Spiritually alive in Christ) to become a holy temple IN the Lord, (because Christ dwells in us) and in him (Christ) you too are being built together to become a dwelling wn which God lives by his Spirit.

Then they quote John 15: 4 there bible says "in union with Christ Jesus", wrong it says "remain IN ME and I will remain IN YOU. So just from that one scripture which can be so simple, that today WHOEVER believes will have ETERNAL life and be made SPIRITUALLY alive, but no the wt cannot say that, because as one knows, they do not believe that all have a heavenly hope and it is not whoever, because it is as they believe on JW and thru there org. you are saved. Whee sorry to carry on.

What is your idea jaffacake on this?